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Date:  6:05:27 P.M., November 29, 2001
Name:  scott
Email address:  scottaaea@aol.com
Comments:  have you tried the limited edition homer simpson cereal yet? it's aces! say, what's that tuning you've been so productive with? i've been using alternate tunings almost exclusively for the past few months. ethan just gave me a new one: EbBbDFBbD; though, i haven't had any luck with it.
it's strange. open Bb, but with a 4th on top. i hope you're well!


Date:  7:17:15 P.M., November 29, 2001
Name:  Phil
Email address:  phil-at-masstransfer-dot-net
Comments:  Limited edition Homer Simpson cereal? I've gotta get me some of that!

The tuning I've been digging so much is (from lowest-pitched to highest) C-G-D-G-B-D. Though actually I broke the E string and don't have a replacement, so I've just been using C-G-D-G-B, which is, surprisingly, plenty most of the time. Basically it's just open G with a low C on the bottom. One of the nice things about it is that sus chords and polychords are really easy to get.


Date:  8:13:55 P.M., November 29, 2001
Name:  scott
Email address:  scottaaea@aol.com
Comments:  i meant a fourth on the bottom. i've always gotten that screwed up. i'll give that tuning
a go. run boy, get yourself some cereal. all i have to say is: breakfast, thy name is homer.


Date:  11:48:22 P.M., November 29, 2001
Name:  Phil
Email address:  phil-at-masstransfer-dot-net
Comments:  Wait, if --

E-A-D-G-B-E

becomes --

Eb-Bb-D-F-Bb-D

Then if I'm understanding you properly, that'd make it a fifth on the bottom, I think...?


Date:  6:17:35 P.M., November 30, 2001
Name:  scott
Email address:  scottaaea@aol.com
Comments:  the Eb is on the bottom, no? isn't Eb the fourth of Bb? i was looking at it as an open Bb chord with a fourth in the bass. although the interval between the Eb and the Bb is a fifth. ethan's written a couple very cool songs in that tuning.
i was quite impressed. so far i haven't had any luck with it, but i think i'm going through a dry spell. plus, i should probably tend to all of the unfinished songs i have. i'm still looking for a way for you to hear them in some degree of fidelity without making a huge investment. i can't wait to hear your new songs eiher. you might want to give: C-sharp G-sharp D-sharp G G-sharp C-sharp a try. i've had a lot of luck with that one. perhaps we should think about setting up a messageboard somewhere?
have a good day, buddy.


Date:  8:41:45 P.M., November 30, 2001
Name:  Phil
Email address:  phil-at-masstransfer-dot-net
Comments:  Well, Eb is the fourth note of a Bb scale, and when Eb is above Bb the interval's a fourth (and if you were to play a Bb scale and end on Eb, you'd play four notes: Bb-C-D-Eb). But when Eb is below Bb, the interval's a fifth (and if you were to play an Eb scale and end on Bb, you'd play five notes: Eb-F-G-Ab-Bb). So I guess it's a question of how you're using the terminology -- the interval between the bottom two strings is a fifth, but the fourth note of the Bb scale is on the bottom. However, in classical harmony at least, one would either just say "with an Eb on the bottom/in the root", or perhaps say "IV in the bass", to differentiate it from the interval of a fourth. When you say "a fourth", people will generally take you to mean the interval equivalent to five half-steps. I suppose you could also say "sus 4", but my own inclination is to say "open Bb with an Eb on the bottom", or "Bb root Eb", or maybe "open Bb with the low string tuned to the fourth degree of the scale".

btw, as it happens, my pre-fabbed PERL script uses the pound-sign as its divider character! That's why the rest of your message got cut off, but I hacked it to work.

Tend to your unfinished songs! Send them my way! When I get my work done I'll do the same.


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