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Date:  08:46:16 A.M., August 13, 2003
Name:  Mike V
Email address:  venezialem@ballardspahr.com
Comments:  i never was advised about this. shame on you. i take it we were both TRaSh-80 users growing up? any chance this DoD guy will resurrect such timeless classics as Microbes, Project Nebula, Clowns & Balloons, and Color Baseball?

"my egg salad supreme has gone cold..."


Date:  11:24:02 P.M., August 14, 2003
Name:  Phil
Email address:  phil-at-masstransfer-dot-net
Comments:  You're a CoCo junkie too?? Awesome, man! I learned to type, to program, to play video games on that thing. I used to subscribe to Rainbow magazine, even -- we still have a dozen back issues kicking around my parents' house.

As for the games you mentioned, I didn't have the first three, but I did have Color Baseball, as well as Spidercide, Downland, and a couple others. In fact, I was once in Rainbow for my high score in Color Baseball (something like 93-0 -- did you ever figure out the trick where you could steal bases over and over again without getting caught?).

But Dungeons of Daggorath was the best -- that game was unbelievable! So deep, so creepy and haunting, so self-consistent...fantastic stuff.


Date:  2:48:45 P.M., August 29, 2003
Name:  Mike V
Email address:  venezialem@ballardspahr.com
Comments:  Downland was great. I remember being disappointed when I beat it because the game started from the beginning again - there was no "end-game", no sense of accomplishment, no reward for dodging those boulders, acid drops (Tune In, Turn On, Get Stuck in a Cave), shottily-crafted ropes, and, heaven forbid, the dreaded Vampire Bat when the clock ran out.

Spidercide and Color Baseball were good too, but I much preferred the latter, because it was a real "homerun" (in cursive). I never knew the base-stealing trick, but I found that creating one's own players and giving them ridiculously high batting averages made them hit the ball out of the park all of the time.

We had Rainbow too; I remember programming a couple of games like Bubble Wars and Space Guns from reading it. I tried programming Gopher It! as well, but was unsuccessful.


Date:  1:34:38 P.M., September 01, 2003
Name:  Phil
Email address:  phil-at-masstransfer-dot-net
Comments:  I never beat Downland!! I could never get past the final cave (I think it was Number 9, since I think they were numbered 0-9). That was definitely a great game, and I'm glad that you got through it -- it's haunted me for years, thoughts of red and blue diamonds left uncollected.

I don't remember being able to create my own players in Color Baseball. Is that just my memory failing me, or are you confabulatin' two different games?

I don't remember Bubble Wars or Space Guns, but I do remember Gopher It! I used to play that one a fair bit, it was definitely one of the better ones. I spent some time with Operation Freedom, Penguin, and a few others, though no BASIC game could really compete with one coded in assembly.


Date:  4:44:20 P.M., April 22, 2004
Name:  Mike V
Email address:  venezialem@ballardspahr.com
Comments:  I just did a Google search for my e-mail address and came up with this page, so onward goeth this thread, over 7 months later...

There was indeed a way to create your own players in Color Baseball. You could not create only one or two players - it had to be a whole team. Plus, if memory serves, this could only be done in Two-Player Mode, but I could be wrong.

Space Guns was just like the Atari classic Combat, where two tanks manuvered around obstacles and shot at each other. The main differences were that each player controlled a spaceship instead, and there weren't really any obstacles to go around. In Bubble Wars you played the part of a hummingbird who could shoot his feathers off to pop bubbles. The bubbles gradually increased in size and appeared more quickly until you were suffocated. Some fun, eh?


Date:  11:21:50 A.M., April 24, 2004
Name:  Phil
Email address:  phil-at-masstransfer-dot-net
Comments:  Two-player mode? That probably explains why I don't remember that feature -- my little brother was too young to play with me then, and on the rare occasions when I had friends over, any video games that got played would've probably been Atari.

I totally don't remember those other games. "Space Guns" sounds like Space War from the 1960s. And "Bubble Wars" sounds pretty trippy!


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